I’m with the ban(ne)d.
Bear with me as I embarrass myself and let everyone in on just how much of an Internet loser I *really* am…but I need to get this out and here is as good a place as any.
About seven and a half years ago, I read a book that really changed my life. It was Taking Charge of Your Fertility by Toni Weschler. For the first time in my 25 years I truly understood what transpired during a woman’s menstrual cycle (I know, slightly gross, but that will be the last of the girly business talk, I think.) and how to figure out how to time things in order to get pregnant. I was still a newlywed but we were truly ready to have a baby so I decided I would start charting. Only doing it by hand seemed really cumbersome and I decided to set up an Excel spreadsheet to do it. And then I figured if *I* had that bright idea, surely someone else already had and there might be an Excel macro or even specialized software out there for it. In early October 2001 I searched for charting software and found it at a website called www.tcoyf.com. It was based on the book and there was even a message board to help you figure it all out.
I signed up, bought the software, and had my first son exactly 1 year and 3 days after I joined the forum. Pretty amazing stuff! And I discovered much more support there. Not only for women TTC (trying to conceive), but also for pregnancy, parenting, and then trying to avoid (TTA) pregnancy using the TCOYF principles. And then when we started trying to have our 2nd child and that didn’t work so well, I got tons of information on infertility and also a lot of support. So many of the women there were just as overjoyed as I was when I got pregnant and then delivered my second child. It was a support system like no other…and the best part was that no matter where we moved, that support came with me. Since we were moving every 2 years that was a real advantage. I even made real life friends through the site. Never in my own town, but close enough to spend time together now and then.
The site has been through a couple of name changes (it’s now known as Ovusoft) and the administration has changed hands several times. They released a new version of the software which I bought because you couldn’t upgrade the previous version for free. I even left the site a couple of years ago after a blow-up between the members and the moderators. But I went back because it was just so hard to break free…we’d been in Sanford for well over a year and I still hadn’t made many friends here. I needed to be able to ask for and get support from a variety of people and that was my go-to place. I did a fairly decent job of sticking to my resolve not to get sucked back in, though. I stayed (mostly) incognito, occasionally asking questions about things my kids were doing that concerned me or adding support to moms of kids with breastfeeding issues, plagiocephaly, or sensory disorders, pregnant women who had concerns about subchorionic hemmorhage, and women who were going through the same types of infertility treatments I did. I remember that it really helped me when I heard about people who overcame the same problems we did in any sector…whether it be TTC, pregnancy, or a child’s medical issue. I tried to stay out of the fray and thought I did a fairly good job of that.
And then a couple of weeks ago, they took the site down. For nearly 2 weeks, there was an everchanging cryptic message that promised it would be back up by this time or that time, but each of the deadlines passed with no return of the site. And then it finally came back up and I tried to log in…there was a question I wanted to ask about a breastfeeding problem I had and those girls know their stuff. But when I input my username and password, I got a “No such member found!” error message. So I emailed support. There was no answer from them, so I created a new username to get in and ask about how to get my old one back. And within a few hours of posting, I got a message telling me that I’d been banned from the site and that my new username was also banned. I hadn’t even logged in for about 6 weeks, hadn’t posted for nearly 2 months, but I was banned.
Someone looked up what my last several posts were because I honestly couldn’t remember what I did to deserve that…my last 9 posts involved disruptive (that’s sarcasm!) topics like sharing my opinion on Jenny’s Simply Clean (which you already know I love), telling someone the age my daughter was when diagnosed with reflux, asking if it’s OK to wash baby clothes that have poop on them with cloth diapers, trying to soothe a mother whose child had pneumonia, and trying to reassure another mom whose daughter was going to have to wear a cranial band for plagiocephaly. From what I can remember, I was nothing but kind and helpful in all of these posts. Maybe short and to the point because I usually have a baby in my lap when I peruse the board, but not at all disruptive, hateful, or anything else to justify the banning.
I emailed the administrator, asking for explanation and was ignored. Then I heard they said that members were being stalked and harassed and I was concerned that my account may have been hacked into and used for something like this, so I emailed again (this time including the site owner, Gene on the email) and asked if that was the case so I could protect my personal information at other places but again was ignored. And so I’m left hurt, angry, confused, and scared. Because none of it makes sense. The fact that nobody has chosen to explain to me what happened may be the most confusing and hurtful. I’ve recommended the site and software to so many people, paid for 2 different versions of the software myself and have tried to be supportive and kind to the people there. I’m sure I’ve snarked privately to people when there was a dumb post or posted a sarcastic response a time or two, but overall I’ve done absolutely nothing I’m ashamed of doing. I guess I find some comfort in the fact that I’m not alone…there are others who were banned who have been nothing but kind and helpful. Certainly not like the “troublemakers” this site has banned in the past.
Maybe this is God’s way of reminding me that He has led me to a great group of friends who “get” my weird parenting ideas, like breastfeeding until the child is ready to stop, cloth diapering, and wearing my babies, who understand the unbelievable joy and endless frustrations of being a mom, the pain associated with infertility and the annoyances of PCOS, and all of the little quirky things that I could always count on finding support for when I went there. I haven’t had such an amazing and supportive group of real life friends in a long time and I think it’s no coincidence that this happened now. It doesn’t really minimize the hurt, but it’s easier to move past it now than it would have been even a month or two ago. Luckily I still have ways to contact the people I really cared about from there and several friends I can call on whenever I need a little support or advice!
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It sounds like you don’t really need an online community of moms right now, but if you find yourself wanting to connect to other moms online, I suggest iVillage. I began participating in an expecting club (EC) when I was nearly 3 months pregnant with Bella and have been with mostly the same pack of moms since then. We now have a playgroup (PG) and I always turn to them when I have a question or concern or just need an “Amen!” from those who understand.
But it sounds like the community you were part of is going through some kind of turmoil and you may be caught in the fray. I know I would feel an extreme loss if all of a sudden I couldn’t get to my iV gals, so I can only imagine how I’d feel if I’d been with them longer than 2 or 3 years and suddenly couldn’t participate.
Isn’t it crazy how there’s always a window, though?
1 Kelly said this (June 8, 2009 at 5:33 pm)
I am so sorry that happened and I find it utterly bizarro. Makes me tempted to see if I can log in seeing as how I have not even tried to do so in 6 months or more
2 Karen O said this (June 9, 2009 at 10:56 am)
BTW, it looks like you can only join as a verified member now- and that all members had to re-join. Verification included a small CC charge, email addy matching ISP, or email addy being on file as a version 2 software owner
3 Karen O said this (June 9, 2009 at 12:48 pm)
I was a member there and had that software when I was trying to get pregnant with my first husband. I have tried to log in in years, but I might try now just out of curiosity!!
It’s funny how life changes, though. When the confection company was really just starting to grow, there were 2 online cake communities that I practically lived on. These ladies (and some guys) were my lifeline on many occasions and I made a lot of friends there (and a large group met in Sanford a couple of times, which was great!), but over the last couple of years I sort of “grew out of it” and it has been replaced with other outlets. It sounds like the same thing may be happening with you!!
4 Amy said this (June 9, 2009 at 1:26 pm)
Holy cow! Just logged into SE today and caught up a bit! Cannot believe how completely they have jumped the shark *wah*
Amazingly, I was able to get in after I figured out their verification. If you need anything else retrieved let me know. That just rots
5 Karen O said this (June 9, 2009 at 6:39 pm)
Thanks guys. Yeah, I’m past it now. Would like to have answers but I doubt that will happen.
Amy, now I’m dying to know what your member name was…I wonder if we crossed paths???
6 themama said this (June 10, 2009 at 2:03 pm)
I would be willing to bet that we did, because I think our timing was very similar. I have a couple of different names that I use on different boards, so I will look that one up and let you know
7 Amy said this (June 11, 2009 at 1:30 pm)
I can’t believe you were banned. It really is so incredibly upsetting to see so many long time, super supportive, died in the wool members just cast aside and erased. I am still a member there because there are still a few stragglers that I don’t want to lose touch with, but for the most part, I’m done.
8 Melissa said this (June 12, 2009 at 10:04 pm)